Nat Geo Explorer and wildlife biologist Danielle Lee meets rapper Sampa The Great to discuss feeling like a foreigner, the power of language, and mental health therapy through nature.

This episode is part two of The Soul of Music—Overheard’s four-part series focusing on music, exploration, and Black history. Our guest this week is Sampa The Great, a Zambian-born rapper, singer, and songwriter. Sampa spent most of her childhood living in Botswana and her music career took off in Australia; but when the pandemic hit, Sampa returned home to Zambia where she recorded her album As Above, So Below. This album sees Sampa shedding her mask and getting personal. Sampa is joined by Nat Geo Explorer and wildlife biologist Danielle Lee to discuss inspiration through history, the power of language, and mental health therapy through nature.

Guest: Sampa The Great and Danielle Lee
Host: Khari Douglas
Producer: Khari Douglas
Editor: Carla Wills

NGS explorer Danielle Lee (left) with musician Sampa The Great
Portrait of NGS explorer Danielle Lee
Credit: Photograph by Joe Martinez, National Geographic

Portrait of rapper Sampa The Great
Credit: Photo by Matt Winkelmeyer/Getty Images for Coachella, National Geographic

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